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GUIDE: How to COMPLETELY AND PERMANENTLY disable Big Picture Mode
26/10/2023 UPDATE:

Thanks to the efforts of the user known as Crtitical, there's now a powershell script which is fighting back against the cancer that is BPM. Here's the user's post:

I ended-up here looking for a solution and didn't find an easy one, so I have made a Powershell script to remove all references to the Guide button assignment.

It backs-up your current Steam config before opening it and deleting all 'guide:xx' refences, and then saves it (overwrites current config), thus solving the guide button problem once and for all.

Full details on what it is and how it works are on Github, where the code can be seen before using - https://github.com/CriticalPoint/Automatically-Disable-Steam-Big-Picture-Mode-Guide-Button

Dropping this here in case it's helpful for someone!

Hope so! 🍻

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DISCLAIMER 1: The whole reason that I classify Big Picture as MALWARE is because there's NO WAY TO GET AROUND IT WHILE THERE SHOULD BE.

The definition of Malware is as follows:

"software which is specifically designed to disrupt, damage, or gain authorized access to a computer system."

In this instance, Big Picture disrupts normal gameplay and normal UI without my authorization. It also constantly forces itself onto my machine without authorization as well. It will hereby be referred to as Malware until it is patched to prevent it's invasiveness and disruption of my entertainement.

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DISCLAIMER 2: This guide is NOT an official way of deleting BPM from your machine. It's a work around which is to be implemented fo so long as Valve refuses to let us opt out of the Big Picture Malware. The only reason this guide exists is because Valve has forced my hand and has continuously ignored requests from the community to opt out from Big Picture completely.

Each user has their own reasons to disable big picture. Mine is that it's performance heavy and that even if Big Picture is set to "disabled" in Valve preferences, pushing the controller "home" button will still activate it. BPM is also the default chat overlay in some games, meaning that "disable BPM" function within Steam is more or less useless.

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DISCLAIMER 3: The "you don't like it, don't use it" argument is about as obnoxious and ignorant as it can be.

You can't not use Big Picture Malware. Regardless of your options, BPM will be installed on your machine. Regardless of your options, pressing the guide button while steam is the acitve window will activate the Malware. Let alone all the bugs which make Big Picture Malware the default chat overlay for some games.

I am NOT pushing for complete eradication of BPM from ALL machines. What this guide is for is to enable an option to OPT OUT of Big Picture Malware FOR THOSE WHO DON'T WANT BIG PICTURE MALWARE ON THEIR MACHINE in the first place. It does NOT concern those who want the Malware. All protests from Big Picture Malware fanboys will be ignored as this here disclaimer is more than enough to answer anything they might have to say.

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UPDATE: There is an easy method to kill home button inputs, found by one of the contributors here. TRY THIS METHOD FIRST:

Originally posted by tintingaroo:
For those where BPM is an issue because it opens on Guide / Home press:
I discovered a way to have some control over the Guide button last month and have been investigating things with it.
I set the Guide Button Chord Config always-on action to Empty and it mostly worked to prevent BPM opening but there'd be issues. If using BT, on reconnect or re-opening Steam (can't remember what) it would still open BPM the first press and then it would kinda prevent it. On USB it would open BPM the first time, but thereafter as long as using the same port, it wouldn't. I think in either case spamming Guide would still open BPM.

With the current Steam clients, it seems to work much better - like the Guide Button Chord config is being applied to the controller better or earlier or something, so I decided to introduce it to you guys. I don't know how it goes on mac though.

The good things about this method is that you don't need to delete files / prevent Steam verification etc. if wanting to use/open BPM you can set a different combo on the Guide Button config to open BPM e.g. Guide + X, for the overlay set up Shift+Tab on a button.

How to:
1. Steam > Settings (Preferences on macOS) > Controller > Guide Button Chord Configuration

2. Select the Always-On action

Always-On action
Community Created Artwork for Steam Artwork
By: tintingaroo


3. Set it to Empty

Empty binding icon
Community Created Artwork for Steam Artwork
By: tintingaroo


4. Choose Done

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MY METHOD MIGHT BE DEPRECIATED. BEFORE YOU TRY TO MESS WITH PERMISSIONS, TRY THIS METHOD:

Originally posted by tintingaroo:
Quick method:
1. Right-click Steam shortcut > Properties
2. At end of Target text box press Space then type -noverifyfiles
3. Click Apply > OK
4. Rename/delete panorama folder


Originally posted by tintingaroo:
I had an old Steam client installation to test this.
It auto-updates as normal and re-installs the panorama folder. So using just -noverifyfiles means the panorama folder has to be deleted/renamed after each client update.
You could just delete the folder after each client update or have a batch file that deletes it and launches Steam with the -noverifyfiles command. You'd then use the batch file as the 'shortcut' to start Steam instead of the regular shortcut.

To create the batch file:

Right-click on the Desktop > New > Text Document
Call it something
Open the file and paste in the following:
@ECHO OFF
SET SteamDIR="XXXXX"
RMDIR /S /Q %SteamDIR%\bin\panorama
START "" %SteamDIR%\steam.exe -noverifyfiles
Overwrite XXXXX with the directory of your Steam install, resulting in, for example:
SET SteamFolder="C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam"
(Note there should be no backslash at the end)

Change the file extension from .txt to .bat

Run it to start Steam.

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GUIDE:

Let's get into it.

It is my understanding that a lot of Steam users are having issues with Big Picture Malware.
A vast majority of PC players don't use their PC in a living room. Nor do we need an UI to type with our gamepads.

While Big Picture Malware is undeniably important to a very vocal monority, it is useless and uncalled for for a vast majority of PC gamers. Why isn't there an option to completely opt out of Big Picture Malware is beyond me.

So. I've taken it upon myself to do the job of Valve developpers. To be honest, I'd rather not have to do this, but I have no choice. Apparently whoever was supposed to run BPM developement doesn't understand nor care about the pleas from the community for a way to completely opt out of this project.

Perhaps they're too busy sitting on their laurels, or they're using Big Picture Malware to aggressively push their hardware through this anti-consumer practise which forces an inferior UI onto every user in an effort to make more sales.

Without further ado, here is how you can completely and firmly kill Big Picture Malware with fire:


1. Go to your steam installation folder, then into the bin folder. ( [Your Path to Steam]\Steam\bin )

2. Inside, you will see a folder named "panorama". This is the evil folder which you need to cleanse. Go into the panorama folder and delete everything inside. Leave the folder itself standing.

3. Back out of the panorama folder. This is where it gets a bit harder. Right click the panorama folder, go into properties, then go to the security tab. This is where you can edit permissions for said folder. You should see multiple groups, such as "System", "Authenticated Users", "Adminsitrator" and so on. Click "edit". Make sure that you DENY access to EVERY group for EVERY task(Including your own username).

You have to do this because steam runs in administrator mode, so if you make the panorama folder read only, Steam can actually pretend it's an admin, remove the read-only tag and stubbornly re-install Big Picture Malware. If NOBODY has persmissions (not even you), steam can't do that anymore.

4. Once done, return to the properties of the Panorama folder and set it to read-only.

5. Now, steam can't access the big picture directory and can't re-install this malware on your machine. The big picture buttons will still be present in the UI, but when steam tries to launch Big Picture Malware from now on, it'll only pop up an error. No more lag. No more corporate decisions which the players never wanted. No more Valve telling you that they know what you want better than you. Just games.



BONUS: You can also combine this method with Guy Gizmo's method found in this thread:

https://steamcommunity.com/groups/bigpicture/discussions/1/846939071346659003/?tscn=1447541997#c35221031602951514

In order to make Guy Gizmo's DLL non-updateable by steam, apply exactly the same method as above to the file itself (i.e. remove permissions for everyone) which, in theory, should make the file unable to be modified at all. The only difference is that you'll probably want to leave the Read/Read & Execute permissions available so that the file can be read but not modified. Once more the reason you'll want to do it is because BPM is malware and will automatically wiggle itself back onto your clean Steam installation without your permission.


UNINSTALLATION:

It's as simple as giving back the permissions to the folder/files. Because BPM is Malware, once the permissions block is lifted, it will automatically infect your Steam installation again you will be once more able to use the Malware freely.

This concludes this guide. Stay safe and kill Big Picture Malware with fire, one .dll at a time!
Last edited by CFW Magic; 25 Oct, 2023 @ 9:51pm
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Juanito 30 Aug, 2018 @ 2:05am 
uh this might sound a little stupid but I couldn't find the the steam bin folder?
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CFW Magic 30 Aug, 2018 @ 12:40pm 
Originally posted by Trauma:
uh this might sound a little stupid but I couldn't find the the steam bin folder?

Make sure you check inside any steam library for good measure, though it should be in the main installation folder. The path fo the Bin folder is inside your Steam Install folder. So it should be something like this:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\bin"

If it helps, the bin folder is in the same folder as your steam executable. If you can't find it throught the path alone, right click on your steam shortcut, press properties, then click "Open File Location" which will open your steam installation folder. In that folder you should find the "bin" folder.
Jim_Partridge 2 Sep, 2018 @ 3:48am 
haha I love the effort that went into this post.
I'm a bit confused though... how is it that Big Picture ruins your life so much?
CFW Magic 2 Sep, 2018 @ 2:31pm 
Originally posted by Jim_Partridge:
haha I love the effort that went into this post.
I'm a bit confused though... how is it that Big Picture ruins your life so much?

It can't be fully disabled. For example, even if you deactivate the Malware's toggle on a controller home button, if steam is your focused window, it'll still open Big Picture.

Similarly, some games will automatically use Big Picture overlay by default, even if you disable this behavior.

And then, I don't understand why it can't be made a plugin instead of a required component of the Steam platform. Removing Big Picture is as easy as suppressing a single DLL. Why Valve can't make a simple "Opt Out" button which will do exactly the same thing is beyond me.
Last edited by CFW Magic; 2 Sep, 2018 @ 2:34pm
psstloaf 14 Sep, 2018 @ 9:08am 
disappointed meh!
why has'nt steam gave us the option to disable big picture forever! it does nothing but mess up all my games and even start playing around with my desktop if i ever turned it on once maybe by accident while pressing the guide button and after disabling game dvr in windows and after the game has already integrated the guide button already!!!.. steam should give us a tick box or anything to not have big picture apart of steam.

I know this has been gone over but im adding my "say" because i too dislike big picture which is quite frankly the politest understatement i can muster!

god only knows why we have 2 interfaces on PC desktop which collide is beyond me.
CFW Magic 22 Sep, 2018 @ 1:03pm 
Originally posted by WreckWren:
I don't know how you could call a feature of an application that allows controller users to play with an appropriate UI malware. OP is either stupid or a liar.

"DISCLAIMER 3: The "you don't like it, don't use it" argument is about as obnoxious and ignorant as it can be."

Pretty ironic seeing as the OP is obnoxious and ignorant.

I've already explained why Big Picture is malware.

The definition of Malware is as follows:

"software which is specifically designed to disrupt, damage, or gain authorized access to a computer system."

In this instance, Big Picture disrupts normal gameplay and normal UI without my authorization. It also constantly forces itself onto my machine without authorization as well. It will hereby be referred to as Malware until it is patched to prevent it's invasiveness and disruption of my entertainement.

And I've even explained why your "don't like it, don't use it" attitude is obnoxious and pointless.

You can't not use Big Picture Malware. Regardless of your options, BPM will be installed on your machine. Regardless of your options, pressing the guide button while steam is the acitve window will activate the Malware. Let alone all the bugs which make Big Picture Malware the default chat overlay for some games.

Thankyou for bringing your hurt fanboy pride to this thread, without actually bringing anything productive or being on topic. Come again!
ペンギン 23 Sep, 2018 @ 3:03pm 
Originally posted by WreckWren:
I don't know how you could call a feature of an application that allows controller users to play with an appropriate UI malware. OP is either stupid or a liar.

"DISCLAIMER 3: The "you don't like it, don't use it" argument is about as obnoxious and ignorant as it can be."

Pretty ironic seeing as the OP is obnoxious and ignorant.

The problem here is the forced mode which customers must accept. Actually there is no real way to prevent this stuff because Valve want to be in living room entertainment and with own forgotten role of it's own platform. Hardware which worked without problems is not working anymore because of forced Big Picture settings. Even to disable Big-Picture Mode in settings does not work.

But there are plenty (stupid) customers as you which defend and accept every crap... For one good point on this platform we get 5 bad ones and not since yesterday. Ignorant? Obnoxious? Yes, the most people (inclusive mods) here are because of that ignorance and "consume only" habits. With your text you have been the living proof.

If Valve would do some stuff as real optional settings there wouldn't be a problem, but annoying forced...well, simple said, no. And honestly? What's wrong with having an additional choice?

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@CFW Magic
Works as described, thanks!

# Edit
Additional info... There is a little trap for people with "exfat" formatted hds. They do not have a security tab.
Last edited by ペンギン; 23 Sep, 2018 @ 5:53pm
CFW Magic 23 Sep, 2018 @ 6:42pm 
Originally posted by ペンギン:
Works as described, thanks!

# Edit
Additional info... There is a little trap for people with "exfat" formatted hds. They do not have a security tab.

Glad I could help mate!

I'm curious about that last part though. Are you running Steam off of an SD card or USB key? Unless I'm mistaken, it's rare to see exfat outside of these applications?
ペンギン 24 Sep, 2018 @ 6:50am 
Originally posted by CFW Magic:
I'm curious about that last part though. Are you running Steam off of an SD card or USB key? Unless I'm mistaken, it's rare to see exfat outside of these applications?
My Steam partition (on SDD) was exfat. I know, common is Ntfs but used this exfat format for one reason. May be rare (except on some kind of removable media) but it was a little effort to find the correct solution. Especially if you are not familiar with the details ^^

Searched for infos. First found settings/guides to enable/disable the security tab via admin, group policies or regedit, but some said there is no security for exfat... which made sense ;] Well, to reformat was no effort. Just mentioned it before other people may stumble about this.
Last edited by ペンギン; 24 Sep, 2018 @ 6:51am
CFW Magic 24 Sep, 2018 @ 9:49am 
Originally posted by ペンギン:
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Well, thanks for the input mate. It might indeed help some guys who have special circumstances too. Have yourself a great day!
BlackRayPlayer 26 Sep, 2018 @ 12:28am 
By your definition of Malware, you make it seem as if Steam and every digital distribution is Malware. I just wanted the games, not store that locks the games into place.
CFW Magic 26 Sep, 2018 @ 4:15am 
Originally posted by BlackRayPlayer:
By your definition of Malware, you make it seem as if Steam and every digital distribution is Malware. I just wanted the games, not store that locks the games into place.

Not every single one (GOG is doing an admirable job for example) but most of them, indeed, are in some shape or form. Don't forget that all of these platforms are, before being your gaming platform, a DRM tool. They do things such as: phone home your personal information, including your credit card numbers, your web activity, data stored and used on your computer, your location and so on. And don't even get me started about gambling (Valve does love their glorified DOTA 2 slot machines).

Some of these practises are, indeed, malware, if not outright illegal. In fact,to give you an example, until recently, EA's Origin interferred with Steam. It purposefully messed with your rig in order to screw with the competition. Google it if you're curious. That is, by definition, malware.

Historically, Valve has been a little bit more tame than EA, but with things like forced Big Picture Malware, yes, even Valve isn't your friend. Their priority is money. Not your safety. Not your entertainment. Not your privacy. And if they can sacrifice all of those in order to make more profit, they will.

But, that's a discussion outside the scope of this thread. This is a guide to help people get rid of a buggy forced "feature". Not to debate standings and opinions. If you really want to talk about this, feel free to add me and we can talk.
Last edited by CFW Magic; 29 Sep, 2018 @ 5:11pm
Typical 29 Sep, 2018 @ 12:20pm 
i like it
GameCrusader 30 Sep, 2018 @ 1:54pm 
CFW Magic, you are my hero!
CFW Magic 30 Sep, 2018 @ 7:57pm 
Originally posted by -T.m:
i like it
Originally posted by GameCrusader:
CFW Magic, you are my hero!

Happy to help lads!
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